Time is not anything to do with eternity.

We hear people say things in conversation like, ” It seems to be taking an eternity” or  “It’s been an eternity since we won the final” or a surfer might say he was, “held under the water for an eternity

I want to shout it from the rooftops TIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ETERNITY!!!

Please dear reader explain the phrase used in my examples above where the speaker says an eternity. How can you have an eternity?

If you have “an”eternity then you must be able to have “an” other (another) eternity true?

Yet eternity has no beginning point and no ending point…..

Eternity is not ever measured by time, whether that be seconds, years or billions of years…eternity is not of this creation.

Time is a created thing which only came to be because in the beginning God created….

Time is a way for Mankind to see things.

Eternity is God’s domain. Eternity is, just as God IS. God is I AM. Always. There is no night or day or seasons of time, no changing of God, no growing older through time, no thought of a long time ago. God is not young or old. God IS. There is no back then God did this, and one day He will do this and this. God is present and fully Himself in the NOW realm…which is not connected to time.

God is and everything else comes forth out of Him into the visible creation we see and know. God cannot be known by us unless He became visible in this created realm. The eternal One became a Man!

That Man was subject to time. He came at the right set appointed time. And while He was among us He revealed God. But He now has become a life giving Spirit in the hearts of all who believe in Him.

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and “forever”?(eis aion) Literal versions have Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ yesterday and to-day the same, and to the ages; 

 Jesus said  as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him
  And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Joh 17:2 – 3

Jesus was NOT speaking about this thing called eternity but about the life of the age.

Joh 17:2  according as Thou didst give to him authority over all flesh, that—all that Thou hast given to him—he may give to them life age-during; 
Joh 17:3  and this is the life age-during, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and him whom Thou didst send—Jesus Christ; YLT

Joh 17:2  even as Thou hast given Him authority over all mankind, so that on all whom Thou hast given Him He may bestow the Life of the Ages. 
Joh 17:3  And in this consists the Life of the Ages–in knowing Thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. WNT

Strictly speaking we have not been told about eternal life but about a LIFE that is for the AGES of created time in which we shall continue in Christ to know the Father and to reveal Him to creation until all things are restored to Him. Once all things are restored to the Father through Jesus Christ then God shall be all in all. After that…who knows?! We are not told.

1Co 15:24  Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 
1Co 15:25  For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 
1Co 15:26  The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 
1Co 15:27  For “HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIS FEET.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 
1Co 15:28  Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. 

We are also not told how long that unfolding of time shall take to complete the times of restoration of all things.

Act 3:21  Heaven must receive Him until those times of which God has spoken from the earliest ages through the lips of His holy Prophets–the times of the reconstitution of all things

We are revealing the Father as the Father is being revealed in us. And this revealing of the Father is happening inside of ages of time….or eons of time. The AGES(periods of time) still to come which Paul speaks of in Ephesians 2:7 are for the ultimate goal of God being ALL IN ALL. To that end we are abiding in Jesus Christ bearing good fruit unto the Father –revealing Him to all people –declaring the grace of God—so that all people shall come to know this wonderful God Who has revealed Himself through Jesus Christ in your heart.

There is no “in eternity we shall know Him”…..it is all here and now!! In the TIME we have been given we are the revelation and the knowledge of God to all things.

God has set this whole thing in motion. He has determined successive AGES of time to be lived in until the ALL THINGS are made subject to Jesus Christ.  In the long suffering of God these ages shall continue until the very last person ever born shall willingly surrender to faith in Jesus Christ. Then every enemy shall be subdued beneath His feet. Then there shall not be any enemies left to subdue. All shall have been conquered by LOVE. All shall have been DRAWN or dragged to Jesus by the Father so that that same ALL  shall come to know Father through Jesus living inside their hearts.

Col 1:16  For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Col 1:20  and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross

All things RESTORED TO THE FATHER through Jesus —that includes those beings that are invisible, ie Angels. All things shall return to the Father.

Rom 11:36  For from Him [all things originate] and through Him [all things live and exist] and to Him are all things [directed]. To Him be glory and honor forever! Amen

To Him are all things!! All things(all people, all angels) are being directed by the Spirit of God –Who is the Father–to the Father through Jesus Christ  the WAY the Truth and the LIFE. God shall not fail for LOVE never fails….even though it looks to us from our limited time-frame and earthly perspective that He has failed. God shall be vindicated and all creation shall worship Him through Jesus Christ.

 

 

The Western Australian Department of Corrective Services fulfils its obligations to the community and to the OFFENDER by

  • providing offender management services that protect the community
  • giving offenders the interventions they need to make a positive difference in their lives and reduce their involvement in the criminal justice system
  • supporting offenders to become responsible citizens by adopting law-abiding lifestyles
  • promoting crime prevention. Source

But according to most Christian believers  ETERNAL, FOREVER AND EVER punishment of the wicked in Hell sees NO CHANCE of ever becoming a better citizen fit for the community of the Kingdom of God.

Therefore the man made system of REHABILITATING  OFFENDERS  is  MUCH MORE JUST AND KIND  than the GOD made system believed in by most Christians.

Apparently God is not interested in making anyone fit for His Kingdom after they die. There is, they say, a cut off time to His grace and never-ending? mercy.

Here is a verse that reinforces that view which because of the dubious translation work maligns God’s true heart and character.

Mat 25:45  Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 
Mat 25:46  And these will go away into everlasting punishment,(aionios kolasis) but the righteous into eternal life.” nkjv

Most versions of the Scriptures have translated the Greek phrase “aionios kolasis” as everlasting or eternal punishment. Yet as I have written before aionios and aionian are ADJECTIVES of the NOUN AION!!

What is an aion dear friend? It is transliterated to the word EON which simply means AGE.  An age is a length of time–NOT ETERNITY. It may be long or short but it is still a length of time.

Aionios Kolasis

I have the Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible here on my desk. This version and other literal versions do not translate the words(aionios kolasis) of our loving Lord like that found in the KJV and the many other versions like it.

REB version: Matthew 25:46

And |these|shall go away, into |age-abiding| correction,

But |the righteous| into |age-abiding| life.

Another literal version–Young’s Literal Translation reads:

Mat 25:46  And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.’

And another- The Concordant Version says

45 “Then shall He be answering them, saying, ‘Verily, I am saying to you, In as much as you do it not to one of these, the least, neither do you it to Me.’
46 And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian.”

These versions are lining up perfectly with God’s character. The punishment is not to destroy the offender but to chasten him. Chastening is FOR A GOOD PURPOSE. Chastening is for those that God LOVES! Does not God love every sinner? Yes He does. Therefore everyone shall be chastened in order to share in His holiness. Hebrew 12 says so.

Heb 12:6  FOR WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE CHASTENS, AND SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES.” 
Heb 12:7  If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 

God is the Father of all spirits –for all spirits came forth from God and live in God and shall return to God. (Rom 11:36) But along that pathway to God is chastening and none of us are exempt from having to be chastened.

We Believers have been called to Him before the greater mass of people. We get to be chastened by our loving heavenly Father first. Then at the resurrection when all are raised up again those who hear Jesus saying “these shall be coming away into chastening eonianshall begin their chastening in the fire of God’s passion for them. For our God is a consuming fire right? (Heb 12:29)

To go into the fire prepared for the Devil is to go into God’s passionate all consuming LOVE as He chastens us as seems best to Him. His fire consumes all that is of the old man so that we come forth in His likeness. This is what aionios kolasis is all about. This is the so called everlasting punishment. It is not everlasting but for an age…a length of time. How long it takes is between you and God. That is true for us believers while we live in these bodies…and it will be true of all those who are raised up to the resurrection of “condemnation” or judgment.

They shall begin to walk with Jesus, knowing Father’s love for them which always includes chastening. This is the Way walk ye in it.

To say that sinners are forever in a literal tormenting flame that burns their bodies and wracks them with physical pain is something that NEVER ENTERED INTO GODS MIND to do.

Jer 7:31  And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom,(Gehenna/hell?) to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into My heart. 

Jer 19:4  “Because they have forsaken Me and made this an alien place, because they have burned incense in it to other gods whom neither they, their fathers, nor the kings of Judah have known, and have filled this place with the blood of the innocents
Jer 19:5  (they have also built the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings to Baal, which I did not command or speak, nor did it come into My mind), 

God is JUST….not cruel. If His punishment had no end He would be cruel. But because He is just and always moves and does in love–His corrective services are to rehabilitate the sinner. His chastening is to cause us to share in His Holiness–because He sees all of us as His sons and daughters…..ALL shall be chastened through the FIRE of His consuming LOVE.

The torment and the gnashing of teeth I know well!! I have been in God’s Fire for nearly 30 years and at times I have been like a demon lashing out at my Father as if He were the Jail keeper. But He always brings me through the fire for that is ALWAYS HIS INTENTION.

God will have all men to be saved. God will bring all people to Himself…through the fire yes.

Chastening in the fire of God

The words translated as chasten and chastening.

Heb 12:8  “But if you are without chastening,…”

Strong’s definitions:

paideia
pahee-di’-ah–  tutorage, that is, education or training; by implication disciplinary correction: – chastening, chastisement, instruction, nurture.

Do you see the Loving heavenly Father here? This is what every father wants to do for his children so that they learn his ways and be pleasing in his sight. We got that trait from our Father in heaven. This is the Christian’s blessed experience–to know His care , His nurture, His instruction and guidance. When God lets you know that He wants you to live in a certain town and take a certain job which you yourself would not normally have chosen…He is chastening you. Everyone knows His chastening, whether we submit under it or not determines how long the eon/aion will be.

The word above -paideia- comes from paideuō
to train up a child, that is, educate, or (by implication) discipline (by punishment): – chasten (-ise), instruct, learn, teach.

If you love your children you will educate them and train them up in right living. God is no different. This is the aionios kolasis–the age abiding correction of Matthew 25:46.

God wants to save and to deliver and to restore that which was lost and broken and unloved. That includes ALL OF US…ALL PEOPLE!

To say God shall wash his hands of all those who don’t receive Jesus in their short lives is to accuse God of NOT LOVING THEM. Thus you blaspheme God and contradict Him.

For God so loved the world? But after they die he hates them?

No!!

God shall raise them from death at the resurrection and they shall bow the knee and confess that Jesus is their LORD AND SAVIOUR.

Once born again, like us they shall begin to walk with God–Their Consuming Fire

This is why Paul write in 1 Cor 15:25 that Jesus must reign UNTIL ALL ENEMIES are made His footstool. Who are His enemies? He loves all people…but people don’t love Jesus. I didn’t love Him, did you? In the AGES still to come God shall win the hearts of every man woman and child and after initially winning them, He shall chasten them until they bow beneath His throne in LOVING adoration and surrender.

1Co 15:20  But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:21  For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
1Co 15:23  But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
1Co 15:24  Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25  For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
1Co 15:26  The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27  For “HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIS FEET.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
1Co 15:28  Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 

Isa 45:21b “…And there is no other God besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me. 
Isa 45:22  “Look to Me, and be saved, All you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. 
Isa 45:23  I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath. 

Christians imagine that there will be a forced confession to God before they are cast into the abominable fire. But read it yourself!! They shall confess surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength. This is the testimony we all carry. This is the willing heart that loves Jesus. ALL shall confess this because GOD HAS SWORN that it shall happen.

Isa 45:24  He shall say, ‘Surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength. To Him men shall come, And all shall be ashamed Who are incensed against Him. 
Isa 45:25  In the LORD all the descendants of Israel Shall be justified, and shall glory.’ ”